(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters - 2010 US Go Congress - Round 4 Board 2 - Huiren Yang 1p vs Yongfei Ge 7d]PW[Huiren Yang]PB[Yongfei Ge]WR[1p]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-05]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Burg]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the 2010 U.S. Go Congress live broadcast of the U.S. Open in Colorado Springs, Colorado, brought to you by the American Go E-Journal, KGS and the American Go Association. Check out our website – www.usgo.org - for the latest Congress reports, photos and game records, as well as go news from around the world.
USGO2 [-\]: This is round 4, board 2.  I'm Chrfis Burg, your game recorder this afternoon.
sweetleaf [1k\]: Hello! Thanks for broadcasting :)
USGO2 [-\]: My pleasure.  Due to the earlier-than-normal start many players are still not here.  Games should begin once players arrive.
USGO2 [-\]: While we wait for the round to begin, observers can view Huiren Yang's AGA player card at http://agagd.usgo.org/Player_Card.php?&key=6364
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei Ge's player card can be found at http://agagd.usgo.org/Player_Card.php?&key=10617
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei's tournament record vs Huiren Yang is currently 2 wins and no losses.
shikashogi [10k\]: usgo2, did yongfei win earlier?
USGO2 [-\]: Players are steadily trickling back into the room now.  Both Huiren and Yongfei are present, but the round awaits a quieter room before players begin their games.
USGO2 [-\]: Yes, James Sedgwick resigned earlier to Yongfei in the US Open game this morning.
shikashogi [10k\]: thank you, i just went through the game and it seemed like that
HoonBakaar [12k?\]: hi
USGO2 [-\]: If you're interested in concluded games, you can find the game records under the corresponding USGO account's game list, or online at the appropriate crosstab located at http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/
USGO2 [-\]: Though it takes some time for the most recent games to be posted online.
USGO2 [-\]: Players have been asked to take their seats to determine how many players are still missing.
USGO2 [-\]: The round is going to begin.
]RE[W+10.00]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[cq]C[USGO2 [-\]: The stones contact the board silently.  Yongfei leans in closer after Huiren's C3.
]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[jp]
;W[qn]
;B[po]C[Toolucky [3d\]: I have no idea who will win this one, seems like a pretty even match I think
]
;W[rp]
;B[ql]
;W[pn]
;B[qq]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei's responses are played instantly, with thumb and index finger.
USGO2 [-\]: He suddenly stands and hurries from the room.
USGO2 [-\]: The soft beeping of clocks and quiet clatter of stones fills the room.
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei returns to his seat with a full bottle of water.
USGO2 [-\]: He crosses a leg and idly massages it while looking around the room.
]
;W[nn]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[rm]
;W[rn]
;B[pl]C[mikan [2d?\]: Writing a book?
Athanor [-\]: looks like w fell in the little trickery
yougotPWND [7d?\]: any video feed?
USGO2 [-\]: The only video stream is on board 1.
USGO2 [-\]: Hence the narration.
mikan [2d?\]: Hope W comes through with his unreasonable play
Gochu: Ge used the strongest reponse
]
;W[nl]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei pauses for the first time.
Gochu: w seems need play at p-8 as joseki
Gochu: that's why
]
;B[mq]C[Gochu: normally w plays at p-8 but w now at o-8....
Gochu: b leads
Athanor [-\]: normally, w gets s7
amy2010 [3k\]: who is Hui Ren Yang, I never heard of
Athanor [-\]: r5 s5 r3 s7 is the normal joseki
yougotPWND [7d?\]: random 1p
WangFei [-\]: he is sususu on kgs
Gochu: w should get n-4 to force b defense at n-2
Athanor [-\]: b played r3 first to get s7
amy2010 [3k\]: what level is sususu then?
USGO2 [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?YangHuiren
yougotPWND [7d?\]: 8d most likely
yougotPWND [7d?\]: old 1Ps aren't that strong
Athanor [-\]: b is better
USGO2 [-\]: Both players are still undefeated this year for the NAIM.
Gochu: b got points hree
amy2010 [3k\]: thks
Gochu: becasue w doesn't know new joseki!
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei divides his attention equally between the game and the rest of the room.
Gochu: but yang strong fighter
Gochu: may catch up later
USGO2 [-\]: He stands and begins to examine other games in the room.
Gochu: w o-8 wasted  a step
amy2010 [3k\]: are they playing on a board or playing online?
Gochu: no actual threat to b right 3 stones 
Athanor [-\]: on a board
amy2010 [3k\]: i c
Gochu: and b got n-3 instead of n-2
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren peers at the board from behind crossed arms.
Gochu: i wonder Ge really spent lots time of studying Go than his works... :)
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei, having finished his investigation of the other games, returns to his seat.
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren leans in close, head on hand, elbow on the table.
USGO2 [-\]: He exhales loudly and shakes his head.
]
;W[lo]
;B[lp]
;W[mp]C[USGO2 [-\]: He places N4 with a light touch.
]
;B[kp]C[Gochu: in fact, b n-3 should be able at n-4?
]
;W[pi]C[Gochu: any comments by higher player?
hju: wrong move
]
;B[oj]C[hju: w resigns
Athanor [-\]: this can't be good
Gochu: wrong move? pls be specific>
]
;W[oi]C[Gochu: which move wrong?
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei begins his habitual leg-bouncing.
]
;B[nj]C[Gochu: leg-bouncing=weakness... :)
]
;W[pj]
;B[om]C[USGO2 [-\]: He's done it every game thus far.
]
;W[on]C[Archaic [2d\]: bounce that leg ge
dfgd: is there a stream
USGO2 [-\]: He inhales sharply.
Gochu: p-7 doesn't like Go
]
;B[ok]C[yougotPWND [7d?\]: p-7 is forced
]
;W[rk]C[yougotPWND [7d?\]: sometimes, crappy shape can't be helped
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei holds a stone over his bowl for a moment before replacing it.
]
;B[qf]C[Morla [5d\]: b shape dosnt look healthy
USGO2 [-\]: He says something very quietly to Huiren as he plays R14.
Athanor [-\]: s8 r7 t7 s11 r9 m10 ..healthier than w maybe
Toolucky [3d\]: i think b will win this game now
Archaic [2d\]: what ge yongfei said on the 5th of august 2010: you are dead...
MavHunterZ [4k\]: i like this commentaor here
MavHunterZ [4k\]: comments on everything
USGO2 [-\]: A loud breath from Huiren as he reads.
]
;W[mi]C[Gochu: but p-7 only help w stronger
Gochu: should try at n-7 first then p-7
USGO2 [-\]: N11 produces a sharp clack, a stark contrast to the quiet placements until now.
]
;B[mj]
;W[li]C[Gochu: then p-9 i mean
]
;B[ml]C[Gochu: seem b n-3 really should be at n-4 so w won't get n-4 and m-5 to make its group stronger,
Gochu: then right fighting will be totally different for b
Athanor [-\]: n3 was played instad of n4 to reduce w's amount of sente moves here
Gochu: but n-3 far from w group than n-4 to put more pressure on w
]
;W[rl]C[Gochu: b doomed
Athanor [-\]: true, but i think b has to let w weak above all
]
;B[kk]C[Athanor [-\]: doomed, but well ahead in territory
]
;W[jj]
;B[qm]
;W[sm]C[Gochu: b territory is nothing to w if b has weak group!
]
;B[ri]C[Gochu: simply say even if w play now at o-3
]
;W[rj]C[USGO2 [-\]: A big smile crosses Yongfei's face as he plays S11
Gochu: b terr very small
Athanor [-\]: o4 then
Gochu: wow, if 0-4, then p-4
]
;B[qi]C[Athanor [-\]: o3 o4 p4 lead to w failure i think
Athanor [-\]: did you read?
]
;W[pk]C[Gochu: even for closing
]
;B[fc]C[goodattack [1d\]: h112233--äää--3322-----hg33333-----
Athanor [-\]: w loses the semeai
Gochu: well if later game w got more ko
Athanor [-\]: if o3 o4 p4 n5 o5 n4 p3 p5 
Gochu: that's a ko
Athanor [-\]: no way, b fill
Gochu: at r-2
Athanor [-\]: ?
Athanor [-\]: give sequence?
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren has 1 hour and 2 minutes remaining on his clock.  Yongfei has 1 hour and 19 minutes.
Gochu: too much, just check urself
]
;W[jk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Both players lean in close to the board.
]
;B[km]
;W[jl]C[globax [2d\]: k7
]
;B[jn]
;W[kl]
;B[lm]
;W[nm]C[globax [2d\]: then n9
]
;B[cf]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[ec]
;B[fe]
;W[ed]
;B[fb]
;W[ge]
;B[hd]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei stands up and leaves the room.
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w wants m8 asap
yougotPWND [7d?\]: oh wait nvm
]
;W[ff]C[sesbes [2k?\]: m8 wins ~ 20 pooints?
sesbes [2k?\]: But it is worse than even gote. It takes 3 moves to win those points since white already has p8 in the bag
globax [2d\]: b n9 sente, so more
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei returns and plays immediately.
]
;B[he]
;W[ee]
;B[ci]
;W[kd]
;B[mc]
;W[ic]
;B[hb]
;W[ll]
;B[kf]
;W[md]
;B[nd]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren shakes his head slightly.
sesbes [2k?\]: winning the 20 points also secures white groups as a bonus.  But still 3 move difference. M8 vs. black N9 and black p8
]
;W[me]
;B[lc]
;W[ke]C[yougotPWND [7d?\]: well its hard to say sesbes
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w groups were already secure
]
;B[kc]C[Athanor [-\]: it's just points w took
yougotPWND [7d?\]: b is clearly leading in points
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w is uber solid though
sesbes [2k?\]: The thing I never understand is if white groups were already secure isn't 20+ points to small for 3 moves?
Athanor [-\]: i'm sure that players of this level appreciate solid points like these
yougotPWND [7d?\]: maybe
Athanor [-\]: r17 dies likely
yougotPWND [7d?\]: but I would rather have a bunch of :loose points than a few solid points
Athanor [-\]: and get reduced then.
yougotPWND [7d?\]: but how? and can you reduce enough?
USGO2 [-\]: Both players adopt a crossed-arm posture.
]
;W[ce]C[Athanor [-\]: these guys know how...
]
;B[be]C[sesbes [2k?\]: Is the black top right corner loose point or solid points?
]
;W[bd]
;B[cl]C[Athanor [-\]: it's solid if r17 dies, and i think it is
Athanor [-\]: b has way too much strengh around
]
;W[eb]C[Athanor [-\]: i think b is leading
sesbes [2k?\]: White might attach on top right and end up winning R11 S11 after some fight
]
;B[bf]C[Athanor [-\]: maybe
sesbes [2k?\]: There must be some little aji
Gochu: w need do sth at upper right side or corn....
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren moves as if to play, but withdraws his hand and places the stone back in the bowl.
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w cant even h3
yougotPWND [7d?\]: he can't invade anywhere
Gochu: how about r-15?
]
;W[hf]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei leans far over the baord as he studies the position.
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w needs to make use of his center thickness
yougotPWND [7d?\]: so far , its not paying off
]
;B[if]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren leans back and places his hands behind his head.
Athanor [-\]: w h15 works in some way
Athanor [-\]: j15*
always9k [1d\]: must cut!
Gochu: no use, and w no liberties
Gochu: and w 4 stones weak too
Gochu: but if w did n-14
Gochu:  w  has to cut
yougotPWND [7d?\]: w cant cut...
TeeSushi [3d\]: lol yeah ^^
always9k [1d\]: sad for w....
goodattack [1d\]: why not?
goodattack [1d\]: he get's the center or f18 group
always9k [1d\]: how abt cut and exchange
always9k [1d\]: who will be better
Athanor [-\]: why can't w cut?
Gochu: w seems have to cut anyway
Gochu: but no big deal for b either
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren has 40 minutes remaining of his original 90.  Yongfei is down to 70 minutes.
Athanor [-\]: w can make points in the center
Gochu: and w need do sth on right to press down b terri,
Gochu: my level only at r-15
]
;W[ie]
;B[hg]C[Gochu: lol
]
;W[gf]C[always9k [1d\]: yeah
Gochu: as said, now w 4 stones becoming weaker sonn
sesbes [1k?\]: black can capture those 4 stones in  exchange for F18
Gochu: guss w expect do sth at o-17 or so
sesbes [1k?\]: But it seems losing 6 stones will be too much for black
Gochu: i guess b has weak point at o-17....
Gochu: but sorry no choice for either party
sesbes [1k?\]: But black will get strong when squeeze j17 group after sacrifcie
Gochu: b got do k-15
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei inhales sharply and holds his forehead with one hand.
Gochu: b only concern is w somehow may get sth out at upper right corner
USGO2 [-\]: He mutters something under his breath.
Gochu: o-17 wont work directly
Gochu: but sth there w may work out....
]
;B[je]
;W[id]
;B[jd]C[Gochu: now is time
]
;W[hc]C[Gochu: 3-3
]
;B[mg]
;W[qe]C[USGO2 [-\]: A short burst of applause filters into the room from elsewhere in the building.
sesbes [1k?\]: We  talked about this aji. At  least white might end up capturing R11 stones
]
;B[pf]C[sesbes [1k?\]: Not after this?
USGO2 [-\]: Huiren hesitates on his play.
]
;W[qd]
;B[pc]
;W[qc]
;B[pb]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren exhales loudly.
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei stands and walks out of the room.
USGO2 [-\]: He still retains 1 hour of his main time.  Huiren has 32 minutes left.
always9k [1d\]: how can w live?
USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei returns to his seat.
]
;W[og]
;B[nh]
;W[ni]
;B[of]
;W[er]
;B[eq]
;W[fr]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]
;B[co]
;W[dn]
;B[eo]
;W[dl]
;B[dk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren hesitates several times.
]
;W[el]
;B[ek]
;W[fl]
;B[gq]C[USGO2 [-\]: Yongfei places his hands between his legs and the chair.
]
;W[ib]C[USGO2 [-\]: Stones clatter from nearby as a game finishes and players begin counting.
]
;B[rg]
;W[gr]C[Juicy [4k\]: where was move 125?
goodattack [1d\]: omitted
Juicy [4k\]: ?
]
;B[hr]C[Juicy [4k\]: i missed it
USGO2 [-\]: Move 125 was S13
Juicy [4k\]: . .
Juicy [4k\]: ty
Baldanders [7k\]: juicy, you can use options:view offline to look at previous moves
patodi [1d?\]: weird to see hyang playing not blitz
topfar [1d\]: W O4?
]
;W[fk]
;B[bp]
;W[aq]
;B[gn]
;W[di]C[andy1975 [1d\]: se jigo
]
;B[cj]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]
;W[cm]C[topfar [1d\]: W wins
]
;B[mm]
;W[mk]
;B[dh]C[USGO2 [-\]: Several hesitations from Huiren.
]
;W[jm]
;B[kn]
;W[np]
;B[nq]C[Juicy [4k\]: s3
]
;W[in]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren's mouth moves as he silently counts points.
]
;B[io]
;W[hn]
;B[ho]
;W[gm]
;B[oh]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]C[topfar [1d\]: W wins!
]
;W[hs]
;B[ir]
;W[ei]
;B[eh]C[yakotaki [-\]: a chinese player ?
USGO2 [-\]: E12 disturbs the placement of the surrounding stones.  Both players adjust them back into position.
]
;W[fi]C[topfar [1d\]: C9 ko?
]
;B[ig]
;W[ck]C[topfar [1d\]: over?
]
;B[ad]
;W[ac]
;B[ae]
;W[bc]
;B[cl]
;W[is]
;B[js]
;W[gs]
;B[jr]
;W[ck]
;B[hm]
;W[im]
;B[cl]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[sq]
;B[qr]
;W[fn]
;B[ck]C[Troff [?\]: board 2 shot:  http://i38.tinypic.com/9j2jd5.jpg
]
;W[hi]
;B[rs]
;W[sr]
;B[op]
;W[mn]C[USGO2 [-\]: More hesitations form Huiren
]
;B[ii]
;W[ij]C[ZeroKun [-\]: DAT BIRD
]
;B[go]C[topfar [1d\]: M13?
]
;W[bm]
;B[en]
;W[do]
;B[dp]
;W[fo]
;B[fp]
;W[fm]
;B[ji]C[yoochanan [3k\]: who ahead?
]
;W[lg]C[topfar [1d\]: W
]
;B[lf]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]C[topfar [1d\]: L19/
]
;W[mh]
;B[ng]
;W[jc]
;B[jf]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]
;W[ka]
;B[la]
;W[gc]
;B[ki]
;W[kj]
;B[kg]
;W[lh]
;B[hh]
;W[gh]
;B[qj]
;W[qk]
;B[ej]
;W[fj]
;B[sj]
;W[ak]
;B[aj]
;W[al]
;B[bh]
;W[em]
;B[ep]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren receives his 10 minute warning from the clock.
]
;W[oo]
;B[qg]
;W[qp]
;B[pp]
;W[ko]
;B[jo]
;W[ln]C[indianayk [4d\]: well, game is almost over and w wins
]
;B[bn]
;W[ap]
;B[ao]
;W[kh]
;B[jh]
;W[sl]
;B[sp]
;W[so]
;B[fg]C[topfar [1d\]: e14!
]
;W[gg]
;B[ef]
;W[eg]
;B[hj]
;W[gi]
;B[ef]
;W[re]
;B[qb]
;W[eg]
;B[bs]
;W[cs]
;B[ef]C[USGO2 [-\]: Huiren receives a 5 minute warning.
]
;W[rb]
;B[ra]
;W[eg]
;B[ar]
;W[cr]
;B[ef]
;W[de]
;B[eg]
;W[sk]
;B[si]
;W[dm]
;B[qs]
;W[sp]
;B[am]C[karudosu [9k\]: how much is komi?
]
;W[an]
;B[lj]
;W[sn]
;B[am]
;W[hq]
;B[gp]
;W[an]
;B[jb]
;W[ja]
;B[am]
;W[fh]
;B[ss]
;W[an]
;B[no]
;W[mo]
;B[am]C[srrp: w win much
]
;W[bj]
;B[bi]
;W[an]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]C[goqc [4k\]: w+6?
]
;B[am]C[gragba: click options then rules
]
;W[dj]C[gragba: seems to be 8 (???)
]
;B[bo]
;W[an]
;B[es]
;W[br]
;B[am]
;W[ai]
;B[ah]
;W[an]
;B[fs]
;W[as]
;B[am]
;W[cg]
;B[ch]
;W[an]C[karudosu [9k\]: yes it's odd
gragba: no 8 is even (muhahaha, sorry)
karudosu [9k\]: that was what i was thinking . :p
]
;B[nk]
;W[lk]
;B[am]
;W[bg]C[gragba: wasnt it 7,5 for the other games?
]
;B[ag]
;W[an]C[karudosu [9k\]: white as more threats no?
enfamil [3d\]: no time
xedover [?\]: Open games in the morning use aga rules with 7.5 komi, Namt games in the evening use Ing rules with 8 komi
Baldanders [7k\]: ing ko is 8, but black wins ties, so it's like 7.5 under other rules
]
;B[]
;W[am]C[gragba: ah ok. thanks
topfar [1d\]: w+10!
USGO2 [-\]: W+R
ec1 [1d\]: thanks USGO2
karudosu [9k\]: well
gragba: thanks you USGO
karudosu [9k\]: thanks
])
